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So, as a normie international relations liberal, I can accept most of your premises about China here (let's set aside good neighbor analogy) but I think your definition of hegemony, while perfectly reasonable, is not what Walt or standard Washignton discourse is talking about.

So agree to be condemned for my view that the post-WWII and post-Cold War era was on the balance good while America certainly did horrific things during it on a grand scale.

So I hold the modal international relations liberal view that the norm against changes borders with force is a critical underlying part of that order. It's a subset of "the stability of a norm-based political order (sovereign borders)" but a vital one and one that is a foundational part of any world order that lmits domination. (Regarding the larger norm, the U.S. has violated sovereignty in many ways, including interventions that broke the rules that it established and were terrible ideas on both prudential and humanitarian grounds. The second and third Gulf wars both being examples that are contributing directly to U.S. decline for a multitude of reasons).

Russia did not need the opportunity to become a regional hegemon to invade Ukraine in 2014 or 2022. China does not need the power to become a regional hegemon to invade Taiwan (admittedly an edge case in international law), in the South China sea, or with India.

The premise in Pacific Power Paradox I most disagree with is the idea that the conventional balance of forces is just not that important. A world in which Russian forces succeed in their 2022 knock-out attempt and have to face a grinding geurrila was is a very different one than our own where they were thwarted in their objective. Making the conquest alternative to negotiated agreement unappealing is only part of warding off the risk of a much worse world in coming years, but it's the one I'm most focused on. And I think Biden did a decent job at it, albeit with the critical mistake of not embracing the necessity of Europe developing as an independent power center.

None of this is remotely new to you, and I do still owe a read of the Rivalry, and ultimately I'm arguing for striking a balance as the range of Rivalry risks you describe are quite real. But I do think that it's worth stating that I think the utility of conquest is what's freaking out a lot of those of us you are critiquing rather than Chinese hegemony strictly defined.

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