Jul 27 • 32M

Part II: Classical Realism Versus International Relations Today: Interview w/ Jonathan Kirshner

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As an early release for upgraded subscribers, I wanted to share Part II of my conversation with Jonathan Kirshner about his new book, An Unwritten Future: Realism, Uncertainty, and World Politics. You can check out Part I here.

We get into:

  • How classical realists view China, and where that converges with a progressive perspective.

  • What Kirshner makes of “Thucydides’ Trap” arguments.

  • What offensive realism—and specifically John Mearsheimer’s version of it—gets wrong about international relations.

  • How we should think about the “national interest.”

Nerd out!


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